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DJ Psyched: The DIY series was created to give creators of all kinds, a platform to speak about their independent creating processes. The world of creating and being an independent artist has changed a lot in the last few years. And so I thought it'd be nice to have guests on to talk about their stories and share what they think of the DIY scene, their own personal journeys in the DIY scene, and give some advice to people who are joining the scene. So in today's episode, I got to talk to us more and Reese was super cool, raised as a bass player. He's played in a few bands, he's done YouTube things. He's just a creator all around and he was cool. He was thrilled to talk to you. I really love the things that Reese had to say our conversation is really fun to listen back to. So I hope you enjoy Reese's advice and words of wisdom. And thank you for tuning in. This is the DIY segment with rescoring. I'm DJ Psyched, and you're listening to the Get Psyched podcast. Let's get psyched about music. And today we're doing another episode of the DIY series. It's been a while since I've had an artist on this series. So thank you for joining me, Reese. Reese Morin here, I'm just going to start with the obvious Can you introduce yourself and just tell me a bit about yourself who you are what you do?

Reese Morin: Oh, yeah. So as stated, I'm Reese Morin, a San Diego resident. I'm a bass player, YouTube cover maker, songwriter master burrito roller. Um, so yeah, I just, I feel like that's a pretty good intro to me.

DJ Psyched: Awesome, yeah. And I wanted to bring you up here on the DIY series, because I've been watching your YouTube channel for quite a while, like we were just talking about. And I saw that you were a kid in his room covering bass songs. And from what I saw from following you on Instagram, I think you've definitely come a long way in like, from starting your room, doing covers to, you know, playing with your bands and stuff. Can you explain a bit about like, I guess how you got in to music and how you like chose bass and how that kind of went for you?

Reese Morin: Yeah. So when it comes to like getting into music, my biggest I guess inspiration would always go to my oldest brother. Because living with him, he was always like a really good guitar player, played trumpet in all of high school and was like, the lead trumpet is like sophomore year of high school. And like that top band, he was just phenomenal. So I always wanted to do something like that. So I forced my mom to give me music lessons. And originally, I was always like, I want to play violin. I don't know why I just thought it was like super cool. I like the concept. But she had this rule that you have to start out on piano. So I did learn how to do that. And then I kind of stopped. And from there, I went to playing trumpet in like fifth grade. And did that picked up a guitar in like seventh grade just because I saw an ad for this game called Rocksmith. And I was like, yo, that looks so sick. And like I can learn how to play guitar. And so I started learning how to play guitar from that game. So from there, you know, try to start a crappy band with my friends as most people do when they pick up a guitar. And this is like Middle School. So when you're Middle School, no one wants to play bass because it's not cool. Sounds like you know what? I'm gonna like, hit up every relative and stuff that I have tried to make some money. And I had this bass picked out, it was like 100 bucks, and I'm gonna buy it. And I'll just see how it goes. So once I did that, I started playing it. I was like, Oh, I can do this. And I can do it a lot better than I can guitar. Just I have big hands and stuff. Guitar wasn't really my forte. So yeah, after that man, I was playing in the jazz band. I got Bass Lessons. And I just kind of connected it with with it on it like a different level. And I believe YouTube videos came after I was in my first band, which was a metal band. We were playing all the classics of Avenged Sevenfold. unrepeated. Nice. Yeah. So I don't know, I always kind of had a fascination with covers, though on YouTube. Because, you know, I feel like in the world of covers, there's two different sides of it, because you have the people like I believe her name might be like Julia plays groove or something like that, where she takes the song and she keeps that original idea of the baseline. But she's not afraid to go on a tangent with it and like, add her own flat, add her own style to it. But there's also the world where I feel like I tried to fit more into where it's like I'm going to show you note for note what's going on. And part of me is like, let's just show you the cool baseline of the song. But it's also, you know, one thing that was a side effect that I didn't realize when I was doing it is people look at these covers to learn how to play songs. So when you do it like that, like, one of my videos, once a month, I got a comment asking for the tabs, because it's not out there. And I guess I got it decent enough. So it's like, it's just an interesting thing in that regard. And, you know, I've just kind of grown musically from there, I guess.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, that is so cool. I love Rocksmith, too. I had that game.

Reese Morin: That game. I have it. I had it on PlayStation three. And then I got the PlayStation four. And I literally purchased it again, just because I was like, I want to see if it still holds up. And it does. Yeah, I still play that game a lot. But that's awesome. Like that you started that way. So it's like music, like big in your family like you most people in your family play music? Or is it just kind of like your sibling. I mean, my brother, my oldest brother kind of started it. And then I continued and then now my two younger ones have learned music. But before that it was like the most we had was my mom was in like choir in high school. So I guess my brother sort of started the whole trend of musicians actively doing music in the family. That's cool.

DJ Psyched: So I'm just curious, like, because you said he started in like metal. And something I've noticed a lot about you is that whenever like you do, like covers or even like the kind of music that you get involved in and stuff from I seen from your Instagram is that you have a incredibly diverse taste in music. But where did that come from? Like, how did you kind of, I don't know, like if you always just loved all kinds of music or is it like through playing that you've learned to enjoy other styles.

Reese Morin: Um, I think it's sort of a combo because my dad was always like, typical dad, he wanted to listen to like Billy Joel and country, which for me, it was like, whatever. And my mom was like super top 40. And my stepdad was super into like, Iron Maiden and stuff. So I kind of always had like, at least a little bit of diversity in what I listened to. Because you have to ride in the car with your parents, you have to listen to what they want to listen to until one day, you take control of that ox. But once I started playing, at least like in guitar, my first like, thing that was mine, so to say, was really enjoying like, blink 182 and the pop punk scene, which is where I owe all my musical. I don't know, everything like that I started because on Rocksmith I've played all the small things and I was like, I can play the shit out of this song. And I just kept learning blink 182 songs. And then when I got to bass, it was like Red Hot Chili Peppers for obvious reasons. So I think, you know, the background for wanting diversity in music for what I listened to was always there. But once I started playing an understanding music more I was able to appreciate more so what was going on in the music, and I guess sort of ignore the genre because it's like, if I'm listening to some periphery song like I posted preposition, which I think is a banging song. I can appreciate the same level of music, technicality and thought that goes into it. As when I go and listen to snarky puppies. We like it here album just because you know, even though the styles are vastly different, the the amount of thought and the amount of care that goes into it in my world is the same. And I just like to see what, what goes into that and how I can learn from those.

DJ Psyched: That's really cool. Thank you. Thank you. I like that. So would you say, because I think this is something that's kind of neat about like doing music, especially like as someone who who kind of followed in your footsteps and tried to do a little cover thing, because that's that's how I that's how I first like, ever found you online was that I was really into like blink 182 and Green Day and I remember used to post a lot of covers like that. And I would watch yours because I wanted to. I was trying to learn the same songs like exactly like you said, I was one of those people who's sitting there like, I wonder how he learned how to play this if I could play it from his cover. Yeah, I think what's really neat about that, like in playing and cover bands and doing covers is that when I first started playing I think I went at like playing in my room alone for like years like like it was like four or five years of just playing on my own. And I felt like the first few years obviously you progress really fast. You're you know you're getting your hand motions down. You But you're learning chords, you're like really getting tuned with the instrument. But I feel like when you start recording yourself or start playing with others, the amount of growth you get as an artist is just way faster. It's so much faster when you're doing it that way. Did you feel like that?

Reese Morin: Yeah, um, I mean, at least for how I sort of went and musically in my head, I think about what bass I used as my main base for like my era's. Um, so I started with this red bass, and I that was, that was my point where I was sitting in my room, like, all day, every day, just like grinding out, how do I slap? How do I do everything. And then I got this a Squire Jazz Bass and from like, that's what you see on my early videos. That's what I was using in my early bands. So you know, luckily, I was still very much so in that learning phase. So I was sort of learning while I was covering the songs. And I remember like, in the moment, I'd like be listening to like the cover. And I thought, that sounds so good. But then, like, I went back and watch some of my really old ones, like, the other day, I think, when we were talking about doing this, and I was like, Oh, my God, like, the timing is so off. Like, how did I not hear it? But it goes to show the I like musical growth that comes when just with listening and stuff like that, but yeah, I think, you know, you can be a good musician alone, but you don't know how bad you really are, until you record yourself and listen back to it.

DJ Psyched: Oh, I completely agree with that. I think what's also really funny, though, and what's what's amazing about getting so deep in music, the way that like you say, like, now that when you start playing more like Okay, first of all, you are way more advanced in music than I am. I know that. And I think it's awesome. Like your musical years, probably way beyond mine. But there's still that barrier between someone who just like, kind of listens to music and like, they appreciate music, but they don't, they haven't played it. So they don't appreciate in that way. I think it's awesome. Whenever I post a cover, and my friends are like, that's really good. But I'm like, Oh, I just posted it. Because I was having fun. That is not my I would make this as representative of how I'm playing. I think it's cool that for the most part, even if it's not perfect, you can get away with most people, there'll be so impressed.

Reese Morin: Yeah, that's like the weird thing about posting online that I've sort of had to come to terms with. Because, you know, like, when you sit down you record you want it to be like, this perfect thing, like, no mistakes at all. And then you like, like, ah, and you're like, Ah, shit, I gotta like restart the whole thing. And I started doing a lot more Instagram videos. And with that it like, I'd make like a tiny mistake. And I'd be like, You know what? I know, because I know. But everyone listening? Well, no. And it rains true just because I if I if you go back in like a few days, and you're like, you, like try to listen for that part that like in your head kind of completely ruined it, you won't even tell? Because there's not in that same mindset. So yeah, I think it's just interesting how, for us, listening back to something is terrible. But other people it's like, Whoa, like, just, you're amazing.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, that's a really good point you bring because like, I think that's true for anything. Like if you're creating something like while you're in it, you're just like, in such a perfectionist mentality, like, I far too often will make something and I'm like, this sounds terrible. I'm not, I'm just gonna scratch it. And I recently have been like, going back and looking at old projects, old songs and stuff. And I'm like, this is not that bad. Like, I was like, Yeah, you're your own biggest critic while you're doing something, but yeah, take stepping back to really see what's going on.

Reese Morin: Yeah, that's the most important thing I believe.

DJ Psyched: And so going off of like your first channel, you said like you started the channel after you'd already joined a band, kind of how is because I'm just really curious, like, how is how is your journey been as like, how do you how do you meet other musicians? How have you moved through these phases of like playing with different groups and doing different things?

Reese Morin: Yeah, um, well, I guess to go with like, my first band, I kind of just knew the guys from school. They were all a grade above me. I guess I knew one of the guys. And he was like, hey, come jam with us. And I was like, Alright, so I did that. And I did it for like, two years, I believe. And that was going super well. And then over time, we never officially like, called it quits. But practices just kind of stopped happening. And this was like around 2015 I believe something like that. Practice it just kind of stopped happening and it was alright, well, um, I guess I'm just going back to like, sitting in my bedroom. Honestly, for most of it like after that. I joined somewhat Ace which was like, the pop punk band for me. And I got that I believe, just through Instagram messaged like, they were like, Hey, you play bass? Do you want to play with us? And I was like, sure. And that was going out that went super well, you know, it's just in the end wasn't my fit. But I think through most of it, it's just, you know, talking to people, following those people that are in your scene, like, I'm not the biggest person to sit and stay after my set. Because half the time I'm super tired, I know, it's not the greatest thing. But even just like following the bands, get that follow back, whatever. And you're at least on that person's radar a little more. And that's just kind of how I've operated through it all, you know, get get in with some people get in with people who play the same instrument as you. Because then I can't do this gig, can you cover me? You know, and that goes both ways. You give them a gig, they'll give you a gig. And it kind of goes back and forth like that. And I guess for me, that's really all it was, was just knowing people and the scenes weird, you got to play more shows to get more in. But to get in? I don't know, you have to do one to get the other but the other requires? I don't know, I can't think right now. But I think the point comes across?

DJ Psyched: No, it definitely does. It's kind of like when when jobs say like, you need you need experience to get in. But it's like you have to find that one job that's willing to take you without experience. So you can have that experience. Exactly, exactly. So that's just kind of how it's been, at least for me, I think that transitions kind of perfectly into what I tried to talk about with a lot of people in this segment, because I do think that there is a scene and there is an art world, what do you think of like the DIY scene these days, like how accessible in a way it is to start your own things? Or to like, put yourself out there? Like, what what are your thoughts on? I don't know, how you started? And how a lot of people start that way.

Reese Morin: Um, I mean, I think personally, it's super great that you can literally be, I mean, just to use me, it's like, you could, I was sitting in my house in some small commuter city in California. And I was doing this and suddenly, I had people reaching out to me from not even just like America, but like, from throughout the world, just like, you know, you get those comments, like, greetings from wherever. And it's like, Whoa, and suddenly, now we have this whole thing that the world hasn't seen before, you know, these times where the whole world is so interconnected, and anyone can do anything with this power, which can be good or bad. But I think for like the DIY scene, and people who just want to share their art, I think it's just so powerful. And, you know, it's definitely difficult because as more time comes on, you know, any started in like, 2006, on YouTube, you instantly had an edge, you know, there were just far less people to compete with. But now, you know, you not only have like a YouTube fan base, you have to have like, a tick tock fan base, Instagram, Twitter, you know, you have to sort of find your niche and do that, which can be hard. But I think as long as people stick to whatever they want to do, and just keep that passion alive, like, if you like it, odds are other people like it, how big that other person market is. It depends on what it is. But, you know, I think it's a great thing that people just had that sort of interconnectivity where you're not so much limited by where you are, but you can really just expand. That's awesome.

DJ Psyched: I think that's Yeah, I feel, I feel the same way. I think it's really cool that no matter where you are, because because like you said, and like we've already talked about is like the DIY scene, it can be a little bit loopy, in the fact that like to get in to your local scene, you kind of have to get in somewhere, and then you have to keep, and it's kind of hard to get in there initially. But I think a lot of people get kind of an advantage, or it's kind of like, a privilege to us these days that we can literally sit at home and just start something like nothing is if you have the means to get online, then you can post that first video, or you can make that first declaration to do something

Reese Morin: you can literally just like, I mean, this is obviously a bit more on the expensive side. But if you own a Mac, and a guitar or something, you could literally sit there and write a whole album by yourself with like, the live drummer, and the built in keys. You don't even have to own a keyboard. You could just use your keyboard on your frickin' computer. Like I think the fact that we have technology and then once you're done with it, and you're like, this is the shit. You just present. And bam, you're on Spotify, YouTube, SoundCloud, wherever you want to send it, you know, like that's just friggin amazing.

DJ Psyched:  That is awesome. And I think it's cool too because like, at least for me in the way I see it and I kind of want to see what you think about it cuz I talk to I like to ask This to anyone I know cuz I'm just curious what people's thoughts are. Because I think one thing that really makes doing this kind of work, like what makes it so cool is like your idea of what you want from it. Like, you don't have to have some crazy insane goal of like having a bunch of people like what you do or having like, or making it your living like, I sure I'm not making a living off of this at all. But it's like one of those things where if you know why you're doing it, if you know the purpose if you're enjoying it. Mm hmm. That kind of makes it all worthwhile. What do you think? Like, what is your idea of like, making it like, if you can start from your bedroom? What do you think as far as like, what do you think it means to make it?

Reese Morin: Um, I think for me, like the answer has changed a lot over time. Because when I first started making, it was like, I want to headline a stadium tour. No other answer, like that was that was a, I want to do something like that. And like, do it constantly. I want to be like the next Red Hot Chili Peppers, then it just kind of became like, yeah, I mean, I just kind of want to, like, if I could just tour and make enough to survive. That's cool with me. But I think even now, I think making it would honestly just kind of put me at a place where it's like, I put out music or content of any form that I like. And I think that's really it. As long as I just kind of do what I like, and I'm still happy doing it. For me that would be making it, you know, obviously, I'd want to be able to have a place to sleep at night and be able to afford food. But even like, I don't know if that doesn't come strictly from artistry and music for me. But I'm just doing it because I like to, I'd still be fine with that. I get more pleasure. Now, when like, I put out a solo bass song. And I had people messaging me and like commenting on my posts, like, Yo, this is like so sick. And it was like, that meant more than anything to me more than any musical project, stuff like that. Just because I took this time to write something alone. I feel like it was way more me than any song I've ever been on. And just seeing that people like it. And that I like it too that, for me like was a glimpse of like, yeah, this is. This is all you really want, I guess.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, I completely agree with that. And that's why I like to ask people what they think of, of making eggs, I think, yeah, everyone's views change on it. I think I still like regularly kinda have to remind myself what I want from something because I have this problem where I love a lot of things so much that I would love to take them and roll with them. But I have not I've yet to commit myself to something that I agree completely that I like, as long as I wake up every morning, and I'm like, what I did today, it felt good. To me. I put in all I could, and I enjoyed it. I think that's like everything.

Reese Morin: Yeah, it's like, as simple as something like that sounds. It's crazy to think that like some days, you're just like, you know, what? wasn't my day? Yeah, even with the goal, just as simple as that, like, just enjoy what you do in your time. Actually, so I think it means a lot when you actually do have those days. Like That was amazing. Yeah,

DJ Psyched: you talked about how like you have, like, played other instruments before and how you do like I'm sure, like, even though like, and I totally agree that it's all about just enjoying what you want to do, I think it is always fun to have kind of like in your mind that like, I just want to keep doing it, doing it with more people. And if you know, I do get somewhere one day where I can do this more, that would still be awesome. That would still be that would be making it its own right. It's not necessarily the goal. But that would be kind of neat. Do you have of course, as far as your future, like, in creating and stuff are there like things you want to try out things that you want to do, like maybe explore other instruments or make something like like a solo project, you have any goals like that aspirations.

Reese Morin: I mean, a solo project has been on the mind recently for like, maybe like, six months to a year of just sitting down and like trying to write this whole album. And it's gone through like a few iterations in my head of what that would be. Part of me just wants to do like a full acoustic sort of funky vibe. And part of me wants to sit down and create like, I don't know, like, a twin fantasy sort of album. But I don't know, I I don't have any plans of like, I feel like all the instruments I know right now I'm content with and I don't have plans on like, picking up new ones. I just personally feel I still have a lot of growing like on bass and guitar especially. So I think if anything like it'd be doing maybe a solo bass album, or a solo album of any style, and just kind of seeing where that goes. But, you know, I'm honestly pretty stoked. I mean, I'm working the tones the reggae band, I mean, we're getting ready to to record our debut album, we haven't they haven't EP out. But we're getting ready to actually do an actual album. So right now, like that's, that's on the mind and just trying to make sure everything's ready for that.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, that's awesome. Like I did see, I saw that the group that you're with now they did have an EP, and that's cool. I'm excited to hear what you all put out.

Reese Morin: Thank you. Yeah, we're gonna be recording it with like the people who recorded sublime self titled album. So it should be, like, phenomenal. In terms of how it sounds, I mean, I like the music. I think it's fun, but we'll see what everyone else thinks. But down here, it seems like people are pretty hyped on us. We've been doing a lot of live streams and a lot of just reggae events. And it's been a really good time. That's awesome.

DJ Psyched: One more thing I wanted to ask about real quick was just like, because we did talk about it a little bit doing art and all that because you love it. That is very cool. How do you feel about balancing that with, like, having to also, you know, do normal adult responsibilities, like having to work and, and doing school and stuff to like, how do you balance your creative life and what you do with having to do all those other things too.

Reese Morin: I'm pretty bad at it, I'll start with that. Because I definitely have that sort of mentality, like, I've gone through phases where it's like, I have a job, or I don't have a job. And they're two very different things, for me, at least in how I operate. Because when I have a job a day job, I should say, it's like, I really like to put in a lot of effort there and like, try to be like the best person there and commit myself to working for this company. And with that, my artists side can get a little wonky. And I'll admit, like, they're sometimes days that go by where it's like, I don't pick up an instrument, just because I don't really have that motivation to sit down and like, grind out a three hour practice session like I used to. But, you know, I think it all just comes down to when you sit down to do your artists creative side, still having that passion when you sit down to do it. Because if you sit down, and you're just like Blair about the whole thing, you're just gonna be hating it the whole time. And I think that's how you just kind of get yourself burnt out. So I think for me, it's just kind of been knowing when I want to play. And when I don't, if I sit down, and I try to play something, it's like, and I'm just really not feeling it. I just accept that and like, set the bass down and come back to it later. And if I play and I'm like, obviously, the greatest thing ever, I'll gladly spend a couple hours learning a song. I just did this just knowing I guess yourself in that regard.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, that's a really great answer. And I think I can, I can definitely relate to what you're saying there too. With that, because I didn't realize I thought I was so in this mindset when I was in college that like, once I graduate, I'm just gonna have all this time and energy to put into my creative world. And I'm just going to I'm just going to do all the things that I've been planning over the last few years. And once I started applying to jobs and working and doing adult things like paying bills and stuff, I realized that there's never gonna be just a time in life where you just sit down, it's like, okay, now I can do my projects. Like, like, now I can just spend months doing it. It's just not realistic. I feel I feel you on that whole, like, some days. I just don't do anything for the creative world. Like some days, I'm just mostly just living like a person, I have to do my job. I have to clean my house like, yeah, some days are just normal people days, and then some days, it's time to do the work. I think that's like normal and pretty healthy to take the time to live as a person. I don't know if that made any sense. But to me.

Reese Morin: No, no, I completely understand what you're saying. And I think it's, I mean, yeah, I couldn't agree more. Sometimes you just got to be a person. Let your creative side go. And rest.

DJ Psyched: But I really, really liked what you said about like, when you do sit down and do it, though, make sure you still have it in you to remember that you enjoy doing that thing that you're doing and why you're doing it. I think that is what makes all the difference. You know, like when, instead of just like kind of letting life take over is that reminding yourself sometimes Okay, I have a minute now. Let me go back to that thing.

Reese Morin: Yeah, yeah, of course. Just do it because you like it? I don't know, simple but some people can get lost in it. Because, you know, you get so engrained, at least with people I know. You know, they've been doing it for so long. And I know a lot of people who are like very, very advanced in the musical world. I know one person who we went to Berkeley together and he got so into like ear training and like understanding music and whatnot. When he drives, he won't listen, because this brain can't stop analyzing what's going on and he hates it and I just Don't want to see, I guess anyone go through something like that. Because obviously he got into getting into that level because he loved it. But at this point, it harms him. I guess. And that might be an over exaggeration. But, you know, I don't like to see people just get caught up in like the routine of it and feel like they have to do because well, it's the routine.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, that actually makes me want to ask you this one question. I used to always say like, Oh, I'd be making it if I could just make a living off of what I do. But I've, after many years of doing different things, and enjoying different things, and working for different people that are our creative and stuff. I love doing creative work for other people I love, like getting paid to help other people with certain things or doing certain things. But I'm not sure anymore. If at this point in my life, I would want any of my hobbies, like as far as music or writing, I don't know if I would want them to be my full time job. Because to me, that just sounds like really, like it would suck the joy out of it if like, yeah, I can't just do it because I want to do it. Or if I can't just do something and make something how I want it. Like I don't know, if I could ever have someone telling me how to do my thing, or that you need to do it by this point to make this money. What do you think about that? Do you think that there's like, it just depends like, would you want to make money off of everything you do? Or do you like that? It's just completely up to you all the time.

Reese Morin: This is something that personally, I've been like struggling with, I think over the past. While I couldn't even put a date on it. It's just like, for me, at least I've sort of gone through this mentality of well, do I want to do music as my career so to say, because I am going to school for marketing. And it's like I could viably find something that could support me and do it pretty well, I think that as long as throughout the process, I enjoy it. And as long as I know when to stop, if I'm sitting there and you know, things are going well, musically things are happening, and I'm enjoying it, then that's cool. And I'd be happy to keep doing it. But if I'm sitting there and enough time has passed, you know, it's not just like a seasonal thing, or, you know, I my own mindset for a certain little bit of time to know that like, I'm just not happy doing it. As long as I know when to stop and take a step back and relive some life for me, then I think I'd be content with creating art and creating music. As long as I can just keep a balance in my own life.

DJ Psyched: I think that's a really good answer. 

Reese Morin: Yes. Thank you. Thank you. It's a hard thing. And I think it's something that every artist has to think about at some point is, do you really want this to be your job? Because if you do, it's no longer sitting here in your room and doing this, like, you're gonna have people with deadlines and doing whatever. And how much do you want to deal with that? And how much of that can you put up with? Yeah, and still enjoy what you're doing?

DJ Psyched: Yeah, I think honestly, just having that awareness and like, knowing that before you go into it kind of gives you that advantage. You know, when you're in it, you're kind of already expecting to have to take those moments to really reflect every now and again to make sure you're still with it. So

Reese Morin: yeah, yeah, that's why vulfpeck is a cool band. Because they don't have people telling them, I guess what to do. And there's a big advantage to that indie side, kind of rephrase, I guess what I said a little bit there is with the DIY scene that we've been talking about. And ever since we're coming out the emergence of the indie scene, not like indie music that has its own genre for some reason. But the whole indie scene where, you know, you can essentially be a band that tours and does big shows, without ever having that, like, record label that management telling you what to do. And I think that with the times that's extremely, extremely valuable, and something that I think given more time to fully develop, because I mean, this whole thing is still relatively new in terms of the music industry, and being able to operate without anyone's help, just by growing your own fan base and whatnot. So I think given time, that'll almost become a lot more normal, and it'll change how musicians operate on their own.

DJ Psyched: That's awesome. You just yeah, you answered my last question right there. I was gonna ask what do you think of the future the DIY scene. 

Reese Morin: I think that's about it. I think it's just gonna be changing and I think we're gonna see a lot more people being able to live a fully operational life without having to sign their Soloway and they can do it on their terms and not have to worry about deadlines and people coming down their throats just just the fans coming down.

DJ Psyched: Yeah, that's awesome. I Well, I really appreciate you willing to be on today and talking is really nice talking to you. I liked hearing what you had to say.

Reese Morin: Thank you very much for having me. I enjoyed having this conversation. I look forward to watching more of what you do, and hearing other people's input on the world of music, and art.

DJ Psyched: Thanks. Do you have any last words you want to say for anyone listening, maybe advice you want to give to someone who's starting in the music scene or just just something you can literally say whatever you want here?

Reese Morin: Well, um, I'll go with the advice category for $500. I think, to anyone who's starting out in music, or any art of any form, to kind of wrap up just everything I've said, I think Don't be afraid to take a step back. Don't be afraid to find inspiration. In other art, whether that be musician looking at a painting and being like, I'm gonna make an album about this painting or whatever. Or even just with different genres, like I was talking about earlier, inspiration and admiration can come from a lot of places. So just try to keep that mentality and keep an open head. And just don't be afraid to one day, be like, you know what, I'm gonna take this day off and keep your mental health clean. Because if your mental health isn't there, your music or your art is going to suffer. So I think that's the most important thing. keep finding inspiration and keep your mental health good. Don't be afraid to talk. Awesome.

DJ Psyched: Thank you for that piece of advice. So that was that was our talk together if you listen to this whole podcast, thank you for listening, and until next time, stay psyched.